Comments for Middle East: US, France and Israel plotting against Iran at http://www.worldfutures.info , comment 0 to 20 out of 31 comments http://www.worldfutures.info Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:41:29 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://www.worldfutures.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=10072#pc_158 Another theory to support the terrorist regime of Iran. The writer has used all sort jugglary words without showing any evidence. - yatim Sat, 10 May 2008 06:43:53 +0100 http://www.worldfutures.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=10072#pc_159 I think yatim should read well before commenting. The article is about the expansionist drive by Iran - a danger to the sunni world and altogether about the US and Israel's will to destroy Iran. Nothing in the article is pro-Iran. Thanks Editorial - pakli Sat, 10 May 2008 09:40:48 +0100 http://www.worldfutures.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=10072#pc_161 I have read many articles about Middle East, 1 common denominator is always use of Israel and US as their ultimate conspiracy against anyone in middle east. I did not see any article with critical view about its own shortcomings due to its theocratic environment that stifle its own people development. In fact ,I like the possibility of Iran to be stronger with its people more enlightening, but then if her country leadership kept bending on wiping out some nation due to its past historical grudges. That will not do Iranian reputation any good either. 1 key example is recent years Iran nuclear development, I will be much more happier to hear President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says that they have succeeded in using nuclear technology for cancer treatment, if they are more than willing to share that technology with the world to relief cancer ailment. But President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad kept telling the world his contempt towards Israel today. How he intend to wipe it off the map.. For that, not only west, but many countries also wary of if Iran ever becoming overly strong, what are they going to do ? Many people do not mind US having nuclear technology or US very strong, in fact many country economy benefited from US growth, about Israel, it has been know that to possessed nuclear technology for some time, did Olmert give his speech that he is going to use it level some country.. No.. Woody - Woody Thu, 15 May 2008 05:54:38 +0100 http://www.worldfutures.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=10072#pc_162 Many people see conspiracy theories everywhere to the extent they forget or they fail to see reality. France is an ally of the US against Iran. France aided Israel since the 1950's to acquire nuclear weapons. Nothing strange or conspirational in understanding that France may lead attacks on Iran for the reasons explained in this article. Mr Woody claims Olmert never said he will wipe out any countries with Israel's nuke and mentions Israel's nuke as a fait accompli that should be accepted by all. Well, not saying how they will use their nukes (illegal as it is that they possess it) does not mean they will not USE it! We know how the Zionists operates... Kazi Mahmood - Kazi Mahmood Thu, 15 May 2008 11:21:44 +0100 http://www.worldfutures.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=10072#pc_163 Thank you for your nice reply, . For Israel to posses nuclear capability is illegal by your argument. I whole heartedly agree that. A quick reality check.. you quoted ".. does not mean they will not USE it! We know how the Zionists operates.." As of today, even coming under attack from barrage of rockets from Gaza (Hamas) , Olmert never threaten to nuke Gaza, so is previous PMs of Israel, even as of today, Israel recognizes formation of Palestine and accorded them their states and home.. Actually , many Palestine really enjoy living under Israel rule (those near Jerusalem), they have good decent, productive,peaceful life inside Israel due to its secular freedom . Many dare not voice it out in open due to the fear of public lynching . In Israel, public health care, works opportunities were much better ,even Gaza folks traveled to Israel for top quality medical help . For Palestine, with so much donation poured in, if Palestinian were well run with decent economy policies and visions, it should have been way far ahead by today, but no, after so many years, it still the same old story. As of May last year, even Gaza had a massive sewage problems, again people were quick to blame Israel for that, actually Israel even sent in pump to help on humanitarian ground. Again, I sensed that many arguments that attributes the shortcoming suffered by Middle east were all because of west/zionist...etc. But lack something self critical studies why it failed and what can Middle East do to excel in the face of global competition, how to elevate itself out of the shortcomings. I hope you do not label me as .. zionist or yankee or anything. I sincerely hoped that Middle East prosper in any fields , be it science, be it commerce,be it arts, be it sports .. Thank you Woody - Woody Fri, 16 May 2008 09:17:55 +0100 http://www.worldfutures.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=10072#pc_164 Thank Woody for your comments. I can see you have your strong beliefs that Israel is doing all good however, the real picture is different from what you claim. The Palestinians are not given their 'state' by Israel and Tel Aviv recognizes the existence of Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank only. The Zionist regime ( I aint call you Zionist or Yankee) does not facilitate peace, it promotes chaos and it disrupts the existing business and economic circle of the Palestinians by uprooting their homes, Olive trees (innocent trees) and take their lands. A pie chart will show that Israel is slowly gaining territory, leaving the Palestinians with smaller territorial claims. Do not forget that the Zionist regime is very afraid of the 'Saudi Peace Plan' and never accepted that plan. It is hiding behind the 'quartet' and behind the Bush regime to perpetuate its crimes and violate all UN resolutions. The Palestinians did not violate any resolutions, they are not hiding behind Mr Bush regime and they are not promoting the politicies of Russia or China or even that of the Arab world in their legitimate fight against the Zionists. Israel is totally wrong in its mission to deny the Palestinians their rights and is violating the territorial integrity of regions like Gaza and West Bank. It is doing so with impunity and with the gross impotence of the US, the UK, the EU, the UN and the Russians. Using tanks to fight kids with stone that is so gross and so unrealistic that even Mr Jimmy Carter had to write a book to denounce the illegal practices of Israel. You cannot defend Israel but ignore its evident and daily recorded crimes! You cannot altogether deny the Palestinians their right to respond to the Israeli crimes by sending rockets into Israel, rockets that does more damage to the high and mighty pride of the Israeli regime than it kills or maims Israelis! Thanks for visiting and come again. Yours Truly Kazi Mahmood - Kazi Mahmood Fri, 16 May 2008 09:42:46 +0100 http://www.worldfutures.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=10072#pc_165 Dear Mr Kazi, About real picture... I used to be brought up to believe "Zionist" did many bad things, until I met a few Jews and Palestinians during my working life and a student in younger days. My perception changed a lot after that. But I am not about to debate it here. Sometime what we see in TV , Internet can be deceptive, kids crying , mothering crying, people running. Can be deceptive. Even Al-Dura that led to "intifada" story that used to make my blood boil, now found to be less than 1/2 true. I know, emotional can be high. Once I met a wise man..that gave me this kind words.. "Do not let anger cloud your judgment to the extent that only grudge exist in your mind, when sole purpose of living is only fueled by the hatred of others. Learn to see others in better light, including the enemy, you will see more positive things to learn from them" At times , our own brother did bad things too. Thank you.. Woody. - Woody Fri, 16 May 2008 10:19:50 +0100 http://www.worldfutures.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=10072#pc_166 Thanks for the prompt response. Yet it is real the killing of Palestinians by Israel soldiers armed to the teeth. It is real the stories we hear and see from Jenin, now Gaza and also the West Bank. There is no denial that Israel is in a corner, uncapable of dealing with peace and in denial of a Palestinian state. They are duping the world - and they got you too Woody - into believing they are peaceful and they are the victims. The TV does not lie when it shows the bloodies Palestinian babies. The situation has reversed itself and instead of Palestinians bombing Israeli busses, it is Israeli soldiers aremed to the teeth killing babies! I do have Israeli 'friends' who told me about the horrors of their government's crushing domination and no mercy approach towards the Palestinians. I believe in the words of Allah when in the Holy Book Al-Quraan HE says he has 'outcast' the Jews as 'harami' - a people that lives by lawlessness and illegalities. About Dura, the poor boy who is not alive anymore, the Jews knows too well how to twist the stories back forth and up under. I just hope that you can open your eyes and your heart and agree that Israel is violating too many 'human' rules and that they will not settle for peace until and as and when the Muslims kick them out of "Palestine". For that is what they are waiting for and it may suddenly happen despite the protection the Zionists are getting from the US, UK and now France. Yours Truly Kazi Mahmood Read our latest on Israel at 60 - http://www.worldfutures.info/Analysis/MiddleEast-Conflict/ From-the-holocaust-to-the-sistematic-killing-fields.html - Kazi Mahmood Fri, 16 May 2008 10:58:22 +0100 http://www.worldfutures.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=10072#pc_167 Dear Mr Kazi, Since you stood by strongly what you see in TV and any Internet pictorial as being most truthful as prescribed by your belief system , it is going to be difficult for you to see other side of story... here is why. Benefit of doubt can be good at times. It relieves us from getting manipulated in our own thinkings including that of religious nature. Sometime a religion may mandate its believer to simply believe and support what their fellow brother did somewhere in the name of religion, but what if , what they did was criminal in nature ? To simply believe that they are at war every day in day out at each other's throat is simply flawed (I used to believe that) .And all Jew and Israel are running Tanks all over Palestinian baby at its wimp and fancy is simply flawed. As recently, when Hamas fired rocket into border town of Israel, when Israel strike back, Hamas was calling for "Human shield" to gather around the place where some Hamas member took refuge, hoping that with civilian presence, Israel will not discharge fire arm on them. During military incursion , bullet is blind. Then when dead bodies of innocents and babies lying there, the TV crew film it and broadcast it to the world, people calling it martyr . I used to digest those picture without much questioning with much anger. But now I gave it a little more doubt. (Above move was condemn by human rights watch, by the way, as early as 2002) I am not denying the fact Israel fire rockets into civilians at time, but I am also wary of the Hamas are using civilian as human shield to gain political mileage and sympathy. To me, Hamas should be using the money (that fire Qassam rocket) by building their schools, hospitals, clean up the place of historical interest around Gaza area, and starts welcoming tourist. They have a beautiful stretch of beaches there for people to holiday. Perhaps look into efforts of rejuvenating the country so that Gaza will see more hope in living there. Starts re-educating kids to appreciate beautiful things , learn to create. Thank you, Woody - Woody Fri, 16 May 2008 12:11:54 +0100 http://www.worldfutures.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=10072#pc_168 Hi Woody, Great comments however, though am not in total disagreement with you, I insist that Israel as a nation that is recognized by the UN, should behave as a nation and not as a group of hoodlums that want to shove Christalnit on the Palestinians. They should let the peacemakers do their work, the Jews and Israel should let the Palestinians Be (Let the Palestinians Be was one of my poems pubished in an Arab newspaper in London in the 1990's). Imagine how true your words will be if the Israelites allowed the Palestinians to BE and stopped from uprooting the innocent trees and burrying the innocent people under rubbles. Siding with Israel in their murderous and their tricherie (french) will not help the cause of Peace, Mr Woody. It will only embolden the Zionists to commit more crimes since they can be defended by good thinking people like you. Am not standing by 'anti-Islamic' actions commited by Muslims since Islam dissosiates itself from the actions of Muslims that commit horrible acts. Islam however condemns the acts of a nation called Israel and that is acting like a bunch of barbarians while the entire world is watching. Poor PR, shameful excercise full of deceit. Deceit is a trait of Satan and since Israel is full of deceit, what does that make them? I stand by my right as a Muslim to defend the defenseless Palestinians against the fully equiped and fully armed Israelis who are duping people like you. Yours Truly Kazi Mahmood - Kazi Mahmood Fri, 16 May 2008 13:51:21 +0100 http://www.worldfutures.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=10072#pc_169 Dear Mr Kazi, It's been a great exchange of ideas, have a great weekend yourself. Good night. Woody. - Woody Fri, 16 May 2008 14:37:02 +0100 http://www.worldfutures.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=10072#pc_181 Salam and Peace! I believe that the world conflicts are not desired by its peoples but by certain parties in power. I wish to sit down with Jews and Christians alike in harmony as we have done in Jerusalam during Saladin Ayubi's and Spanish Cordoba's times. The miuch longer and rich history before the present Middle East confict has gone buried in its past. We should replenish its great era of intra-semitic tranquility. I as a chinese new muslim am proud of this world of Allah and all its beauty. We must ban war and nuclear arms. Sit down and give more than take. In the hereafter Allah will not ask why you give in but shall reward for doing it out of forgiveness and in His name. Don't take my word for it. Read the Quran yourself. Conspiracy or not, we must all call for the stated objectives here. Ban all WMDs. Peace! Redhuan D. Oon Kuang, Malaysia - Redhuan D. Oon Fri, 23 May 2008 01:05:24 +0100 http://www.worldfutures.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=10072#pc_182 fuck you kazi, you are blind. go rot in hell. - Observer Mon, 26 May 2008 05:54:25 +0100 http://www.worldfutures.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=10072#pc_183 I guess your name is a 'four' letter word too? At least you learned something by posting comments here, observer. - Kazi Mahmood Mon, 26 May 2008 12:19:54 +0100 http://www.worldfutures.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=10072#pc_184 Salam Thanks Riduan for your post. Keep visiting. - Kazi Mahmood Mon, 26 May 2008 12:20:29 +0100 http://www.worldfutures.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=10072#pc_185 How come the few minority or moderate Muslims long to sit down with the infidels or People of the Book while the majority of Muslims long for the destruction of all infidels and reinstate the Dar al-Islam into their piece of land? What text or motivation are these "extremist" taking out of context? As far as i know, they are just true to their religion and every bit of them dates back to their primary example the Prophet Muhammad. Most Muslims paint him to be compassionate and wise (just because of some separate incidences recorded). How about those parts which paints the man a violent and unforgiving killer and worst still a paedophile? The prophet reminds me of leaders from certain cults where double standards are applied. For instance, he can have more than 4 wives while the others are only limited to four. If you don't call it double standards, you will call it a privilege for a prophet. Most of the world's troubles draws inspiration from this prophet who has set his precedence on dominance. From Nigeria, France, South Philippines, Western China, Middle Asia, where there are Muslims, there will always be some sort of rebellion against their infidel governments. It runs in their blood and religious belief to be a dominating force wherever they are. Israel is one of the few examples the Muslims lost Dar al-Islam to Dar al-Harb and the cannot bear such a abomination to their belief of the Quran. And talking about all the media we hear today, just look at the fruits of the people. The Palestinians are like thugs who fight and kill among themselves and have no progress in their societies. Look at Israel and how many patents they have contributed to the world. When there is trouble within Israel, you don't see them shooting guns into the sky and killing their own kin unnecessarily. I know a barbarian when i see one, and i will also know a civilized people when i see one. You think we don't know how Palestinians draw symphathy over children's dead bodies? Just take them as human shields when you shoot at an Israeli soldier and the rest you can imagine. Too numerous pictures of children strapped with bombs and calling the Jews pigs and monkeys. I don't see that in the Israeli media, calling the Palestinians or Muslims pigs and donkeys. So for those who eat from the same tree, Muslims will be Muslims until you truely find out the truth of your religion and move on like Walid Shoebat (former PLO Terrorist). - Langolier Mon, 26 May 2008 18:33:36 +0100 http://www.worldfutures.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=10072#pc_186 Give you a good example here. When a man is consistently calling a nation to be wiped out off the map and gearing to nuclear power, would you be scared of this man if he refers to your nation? Let's say if i want to erase Mecca out of the world map today and i am spending most of my money on nuclear power research, what would you do? It is always a conspiracy against the Muslim world. Makes the Muslims sound so stupid for failing to identify so many conspiracies throughout the ages. Please get a life. When the toilet fails to flush, it is a Zionist conspiracy too? - Langolier Mon, 26 May 2008 18:40:29 +0100 http://www.worldfutures.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=10072#pc_190 Rhetorical Langolier, pls try to practice what you preach. When you take examples, please try to put the Palestinians also in your 'good side' of the example, such as think if you were a palestinian and people took your land just like that, what would u do? French people are hating the Muslims they brought to France coz the Muslims now want their rights. British do the same, Americans also. You are so one sided that i tend to believe you have only one eye! And do you know what is a one eye bastard in Christianity? It is either gog/magog or the Ante-Christ. Foutreva Langelier! - Kazi Mahmood Mon, 26 May 2008 23:26:20 +0100 http://www.worldfutures.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=10072#pc_191 Langolier, ur full of wishful hatred. U quoted: Let's say if i want to erase Mecca out of the world map today.... Well as a Muslim, let me tell you this: Go ahead, go and erase Mecca. That would not make me change my faith. But I think its a long shot. U or Bush or his ante-Christ allies will not be able to to do this one single thing - that is erase Mecca from the world map! Trust me. Yet on the other hand, Israel will surely dissappear, with or without Iran's nuke...Trust me harder and you will see it. No one except God can prevent the crash of Israel and its dissappearance from the world map yet God always keep His promises which is clearly stated in the books of revelations and it is the erasing of Israel from existence. - Kazi Mahmood Mon, 26 May 2008 23:28:10 +0100 http://www.worldfutures.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=374&Itemid=10072#pc_193 Someone of your stature is sounding like a baby now... Did i mentioned anything about Christianity or Ante-Christ? You Muslims will only know how to throw accusations without looking at the real problem. I feel pity for people like you. Only bend on the destruction of others, as you mentioned "Israel will surely disappear, with or without Iran's nuke". You summed it up all well. Look at your response when i say wiping Mecca out on the map of the world. Now you feel what the Israelis feel when Ahmedinejad keeps stressing that point and gearing to nuclear power. Please before you throw "one eye bastard" term to me, look at yourself in the mirror. Hypocrite. - Langolier Tue, 27 May 2008 04:06:18 +0100